So many stupid people, so little time.

Phew! Scouting around the usual deadbeat kiwi traps, you see so much misinformation, posts by unbelievably stupid people and the usual plain ignorant.

Us kiwis post 2001 just want a hands up to be respected and given the right to naturalisation after x period of time not a handout. The Politicians on both sides of the political spectrum on both sides of the tasman have forgotten the #ANZACValues



:Ah yes, drag up the old Anzac spirit if it suits your needs. I'll bet this poster has never seen an Anzac dawn service. You do have the right to PR, you just don't want to apply as you'd be rejected.




how is fair to kiwi's in oz?? we pay medicare, taxes etc yet stil its harder for us to become australian citizens why pick us out from the hundreds of other peoples who make aussie home??

Oh god,...taxes again. I'm starting to think we should just call it a stupid kiwi tax. You can apply, as repeated a thousand time. You just won't as you know you will be rejected.




Human Rights are for every country bar New Zealand.....just see what these other countries get on Arrival here..housing,jobs and benefits...migrant centres..the list goes on..even provided with clothing..



Really? Where did  you find this piece of crap? Jobs? Housing? Migrant affairs have been around for years. It's not a branch of centrelink. So what you saying is you want a lot for doing nothing. Priceless!

Someone with a decent view.

Whirlpool forums:

I think at the end of the day. This Crusade that groups like OzKiwi are championing are going to go the way of the Maua.

The majority of these people are those who this agreement was supposed to target. Unskilled middle class people that are allowed to come here and make money but are not allowed to get benefits.

They are essentially complaining that they can come here without restriction and work without restriction but don't have a lot of the rights as citizens.

I think the biggest issue is the inconsistency and ambiguity of the Australian government explaining to New Zealanders coming in on the SCV what they are, and this should be done before they board a plane.

Thus I think alot of the frustration stems from an incorrection assumption of what their status really is.

Quite frankly, those who have built up a life here in Australia and subsequently suffered something very unfortunate in their personal circumstances should have known the potential risk and what they wouldn't be entitled too before they board a plan.

There also needs to be solutions for the social ramifications that this visa creates. I find it fair that Kiwis pay tax even if they can't reap the full benefits of our infrastructure. Though there should be an insurance scheme in place that fills the gap of welfare for limited amounts that is specifically targets special condition visas. This should be mandatory or at least encouraged.

There should also be more conditions on the visa. A formal application that includes educating prospective entrants on what their visa is going to entitle them too.

History aside, I think that New Zealanders should not be able to come in to Australia and access the welfare system. The current scheme works excellently by keeping the labour market competitive and not burdening the government with potential welfare cases.

Above all else though, I believe welfare is strangling this country. I don't think NZers are entitled to it like I think half of those on it now aren't entitled to it. It won't get better if we open up the system to another 650,000 potential claimants.